Monday, October 16, 2006

Conversation with Jessica and Leonid.

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Leonid, Your comments about young breeder Darya "you bought two horses yesterday" is unacceptable and not polite! There is no Akhal Teke community. That`s what I understand people are trying to build here. Without respect and understanding from one member to another it will not be possible. We bought "our horses yesterday" but me may have more potential with the help of professional trainers to show our horses today. There is no Akhal Teke community that`s why breed suffers because many can not overcome their personal issues and start training the horses for the serious shows. And I thought experienced breeder should just be happy so we are the young generation is still interested in Akhal Teke horses and should support our passion for it because we are spending our hard earned money on buying, maintaining and trying to show Akhal Tekes. Noone yet gave me a trained horse and said, go head and take it to the show. I have to back my own horses that`s how far away I am from it. But I still backed Jessica`s Paikhas and I will back Tito`s horses because people have to see Akhal Tekes here in Florida. I am backing the horses because I have no choice and I will not appriciate someone comments that I own horses for two days...
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comment posted by Jessica 10/16/2006 09:33:16 AM
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I think it is better to discuss openly suggestions for improvement, as long as we have an open discussion going on everything can only get better. In order to find better solutions we will have to define the past and the present. Define the problem and work towards solutions. The wider range of personalities and experiences the better. There are seniors and juniors and rookies in this forum, I base it on number of years "in service" with this breed. I think it is good that also the rookies are listened to as it is interesting to see how a rookie experience coming into this breed in the 21st century. Dasha, no one will give you anything more than you ask for, there are trained Tekes for sale that can go directly into the show ring. When you bought Paikhas from us we suggested her as you wanted a young horse you could work with from scratch. As you mentioned that you were not that an experienced rider we selected for you a young mare with an easy going temperament that we had found exceptionally easy to work with, she was backed in Sweden as a two-year-old and lost I would say four months of training due to her exportation from Sweden and importation to the USA. It is great to know that you have decided to train and show your Tekes in Florida. You have chosen to buy a three- year- old that you by now has had in traning for 1.5 years. Training horses for the discipline you have chosen to show in, dressage, take many years and there are no short cuts. It's great to know that you work with a trainer and we have never denied you out support or help in any matters. The two rescues you saved from the stud farm in Texas will need a lot of time to recover from years of starvation and abuse. Moira was backed by me in your place (this I call support), she was lame and emancipated at that time as she had recently arrived, I backed her as I has promised to do to check if she had been under rider before which she obviously had. I then recommended you to give her all the time she needed to recover. The seven-year-old halter broken stallion has lost 5 to 4 years of training and I can guess it will be quite a challenge to get him trained to show in dressage. However, there are trained Tekes for most disciplines for sale so there is no need real for anyone to start of with green or rescued horses in this country. I do not agree with your "no one sold me" argumentation. What I do admire about you Dasha and think is almost unique is that you have decided to show and not to breed Tekes. Let me know when you will enter your first Teke in a show here in Florida and we will be there with the big supporter team.
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comment posted by shael10/16/2006 09:47:52 AMHomepage: http://shael-teke.ru/
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Даша, я про Ивана, а Вы про Фому. Прочитайте последний пост Дарьи, который просто оскорбителен для россиян и для тех усилий, благодаря которым мы создавали МААК. В итоге, сегодня МААК не работает, но в том числе и благодаря нашим зарубежным коллегам, пребывающим в пассивности. Даша, Вы свои деньги тратите для своей души или бизнеса и я не собираюсь их считать. Если бы ко мне пришёл Мастер уровня Филатова, то я, безусловно бы дал ему лошадь в работу. Приходите к нам и докажите, что Вы мастер такого уровня. Мы приветствуем любые усилия, направленные на продвижение текинцев. Видимо я ни когда не смогу вежливо выслушивать менторский тон дилетантов. Разведение это конечно не космические технологии, но этому делу мы отдаём свою жизнь, а не только деньги. А если уж взялись за заводскую деятельность, то хотя бы изучите предмет на столько глубоко насколько это возможно. Таже Джессика провела не мало времени в России, да и начинала не с нуля в голове. Шамборант как то рассказал анекдот: "Художник устороил премьеру просмотра своей картины. Пригласил своих друзей, среди которых был сапожник. Картина была портретом во весь рост. Его друг-сапожник указал своему другу-художнику на ошибки в изображении сапог и художник взял кисть и тут же исправил недостатки. Но сапожник не успокоился и указал на ошибки в изображении лица на портрете. Здесь художник резко оборвал его словами: "Выше сапога не лезь"". Хочешь быть заводчиком, то хотя бы оглядись вокруг, покушай этого хлеба-соли, заработай авторитет в обществе, а тогда мы послушаем как надо жить лучше. Даша, не стоит обижаться, луше переведите на английский если не трудно.
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comment posted by Dasha Cole10/16/2006 11:45:25 AMHomepage: http://www.akhalteke.homestead.com/
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Jessica Thank you for your comments. I have no complains as you know about Paikhas - I bought her unbroke. And I am very happy with her. She does have a thrown cicle but she will be bred this year as a recomendation of the vet. We will let you know shen she goes into her first show. Would love to have you! Please let me know who has any seriousely trained AT horses for sale at this moment? I am not talking just broke. For the breeding part we do have a breeding farm set up for the next season. We have Dolomit availabe for stud services as well as we are getting paperwork finalized for another MAAK approved stallion who has off spring on the ground. We will be offereing two stallions for the breeding season of 2007 here in Sarasota. Everyone welcome! We will breed to part breds as it seems so far most of the reservations arive from non-AT owners. All the recomendations for breeding will be done by Tito Pontecorvo for pure bred horses. If anyone has a desire to find out what they horse will look like to avoid breeding mistakes I understand from Tito`s wife Natasha this information will be avilable soon. As to Dolomit and Moira - they are both great horses demonstrating top class of breeding in Akhal Tekes. Dolomit is under the saddle at the trout, shows wonderfull temper. Moira is under the saddle at the trout too. Both horses are sound working horses and doing great. Pictures of Dolomit and Moira will be on my blog soon under the saddle. It was a drought in Texas this year and we have seen it since we were there. There is nothing you can do with 110F in the pastures and no rain for the grass. Leonid I would take your word on top class training. Maybe I can show something in a few years. My trainer who is a top class retired dressage master thinks that I have the potential. Wonderfull part is that we have our own farm, we are close to famous Siesta Key and Sarasota city where according to statistics every 6th household is a millionaire. We will live we will see. Leonid I will not be able to translate the blog since I am leaving to run my advertising compaign in Teneriffe and South Africa tonight and will be back only next week by Friday. Maybe Darya or Maria can help? Well, let`s stay freinds, do not abuse the experiece and the honour of old breeders but also keep educating the youngsters like us and hopefully we can move the breed forward during this century.

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